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MIgardener: Most of What You Hear About Organic Seeds is a LIE



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26 Comments

  1. Great way to look at it!
    I've always had a problem with the term "chemicals" in gardening. Because even organic supplements are "chemicals". And is there a difference between "synthetic" fertilizer and "organic" fertilizer, if the end result is the same basic "chemicals"? I'm all in favor of being as natural as possible. But at some point, the extra cost for a more natural product isn't worth it, if the "chemicals" are the same. Kinda like a natural diamond VS a lab-grown diamond. Same end result, different process to get there. One is less expensive.
    Pesticides and herbicides are a totally different subject compared to fertilizers.

  2. Buying seed from smaller farms is probably a wise idea, rather buying from commercial farms that have contracts with Monsanto (glyphosate) Those are the type of farms that provide corn flour/oil (dent corn 🌽) GMO beets (processed sugar) and soy flour/oil to corporate food America. Those ingredients along with wheat products or grains 🌾 make up 80% of many supermarkets today. So that makes me wonder, are some of these seeds like from dent corn, or even wheat berries, some species or types of plants may not be good anymore. Also, those crops are grown to feed livestock. It goes into ultra processed food and to feed animals. So, unless a person is buying grass fed/grass finished and organic meat and dairy, they are also ingesting part of those chemicals even if they grow their own vegetables without pesticides.

  3. I have so much problems with aminopyralids in cow manure. Nothing grows in soil with this contamination. Seems like all the cattle ranchers here are using aminopyralids on their pastures and it is in the hay they feed the cows with.

  4. If I can get the organic for the same price…sure… but the drastic difference in price… I'm with you luke!!!

  5. 1/1000 of 32 oz is .18 tsp! So not even a quarter of a tsp! You def had way more in your jar than that!!! Good job!

  6. Luke! Awesome demonstration! Thank you ❤ I’m a suburban gardener on a quarter acre lot. The biggest inspiration for growing my own is because of all the herb.. and pesticides used in commercial growing. I use only organic methods in my garden, and grow to invite all the benificiqls and natives 😊

  7. Hey @migardener Luke would you be willing to share which farms specifically the seeds come from? For instance the 2024 Roma tomatoes?

  8. nothing is fully 100% organic or non GMO. the only way this is possible is if it is in a controlled environment. if that is the case, it will be crazy expensive.

  9. I appreciate your channel and I’m not saying don’t buy or plant seeds that aren’t organic(label or not) but…. That was a horrible analogy:)
    All you are talking about is comparing visual and/or touching. Not what that chemical(s) does to the plant/seed. We don’t understand whatsoever what happens exactly with chemicals like are used on our food but you could have no better taken a glass full of water and pretended it was the human body and then drink it and say that glyphosate in such a small amount if you get sprayed with it or if you consume it that doesn’t effect sperm or eggs and therefore don’t worry about it. Fear is never healthy and I certainly would not fear a seed if that’s what I was able to get but saying something is in such small amount that it doesn’t matter is just false. That’s the excuse for mercury and aluminum and aborted baby cells and poisoned animal cells in vaccines yet it doesn’t take much of a brain to know there is a difference between injecting and ingesting and is that even good to think they need that poison even if you believe small amounts mean nothing? There is always the fact that we don’t know as much as we think we do.
    Anyway…. Love your company! Just not your analogy.
    I also agree a label means nothing. It should be the people poisoning food that have to pay extra and have more testing done to get a label that warns us this food sucks and isn’t really food.

  10. Break this down Luke because many have so many misconceptions of organic seeds and food. Suggest for many to do their research on this topic

  11. What about how companies spray the actual seeds with chemicals to keep insects from hatching in the seed packets? These.companies actually
    need special permits from the EPA to dispose of them. It would be helpful to let us know about that side of the story and neonicotinoids sprayed on seeds. Please enlighten us on these practices.

  12. From my understanding as a student currently studying agriculture, the majority of treated seeds are major crops that are being grown commercially on farms, like corn, sugarbeet, soybean ect. The seeds sold to at-home gardeners are very unlikely to be treated because it is costly and undesirable. Treated seeds also tend to be colored in a way to avoid cross contamination with non-treated material, like if treated seed was mixed with silage.

  13. I switched to organic because nothing worked with the synthetics! Pests and diseases took over, and the worms got out of there as fast as they could. Since I went to organic, I’m having so much less pressure with pests and diseases, and I find worms everywhere.

  14. Good info! I'm a horticulturist, been on the retail side of things for 15+ years and I can't tell you how many times I've had this conversation with people. You can grow perfectly fine organic crops from non-organic sourced seed. I tell people "whether or not your crop will be organic depends entirely on how YOU grow it." More public education is absolutely needed on this topic, as it gets murky pretty quick. I've had some customers buy organic seeds only to go home and immediately start growing them with synthetic fertilizers, insecticides, ect. When I'd ask them about it (since they told me they were growing only organically), they thought since the seeds were organic, the resulting crop would be too. I then have to break the bad news to them..

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